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NTLM And LM Algoritm
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:10 pm Reply with quote
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Hi Everyone,
I created NTLM Rainbow Table to crack WinXP's Admin Password.But I want to ask that whch algoritm use WinXP?
I searched the web and i found
NT based(2000,2003,XP uses NTLM Algoritm)
9x(95-98-Me uses LM Algoritm)

Is it True?

And windowsXP recover hash in system32/config/SAM file?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:33 pm Reply with quote
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outlawsys,

THe type of hash depends on the version of windows and how the OS is setup. XP still can use a LM hash for passwords if the network has any older systems on it. The best way to get the hashes is... Cain & Able, PWDUMP3, Sam inside, & many other programs.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:47 pm Reply with quote
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yes u can find the password file at C:\WINDOWS\system32\config

i used to crack with john using a dictionary, u can use pwdump for getting the hash on windows or samdump (with bkhive) on linux

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:43 pm Reply with quote
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But pwdump dont works without administrator groups users.
It want admin rights .But i want a program when i login a normal user it gives me all hashes.Is there a program like this?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:36 am Reply with quote
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outlawsys wrote:
But pwdump dont works without administrator groups users.
It want admin rights .But i want a program when i login a normal user it gives me all hashes.Is there a program like this?


cain and abel i think . but it depents on your windows system or if you are connected to a network it may be like lm + ntlm +challenge ...

in any way is a great tool .. a must have.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:37 am Reply with quote
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outlawsys,

ToXic is correct in that Cain & Able can sniff and capture the LM + Challenge hash. To do this you will need to ARP Poison the subnet and sniff for the hashes. Once you have one you can sent it to the cracker in Cain and then brutforce it or use dictionary. If you need more info on this I have wrote a paper on it here:
http://www.middlegeorgia.org/default.asp?id=44&mnu=44
http://www.middlegeorgia.org/default.asp?id=45&mnu=45
http://www.middlegeorgia.org/default.asp?id=54&mnu=54

Read the papers and e-mail me if you have any other questions on using Cain.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:45 pm Reply with quote
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Hmm cool, i didnt know that really worked with ca&able, I always use ettercap for it. Im gonna download your manuals, thnx
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:29 pm Reply with quote
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Edit.... I removed this post because it was off subject.

Sorry to bother any of you guys/gals Razz

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Last edited by slimjim100 on Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:50 pm; edited 1 time in total

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:39 pm Reply with quote
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Hi slimjim,

I would really want to help out, but i really dont like having googles toolbar in my vision haha Wink You might wanna get yourself a "donate via paypal" button so the people can help you out, I'm more than willing too do so.

Also let me know if I can help you with any hosting services.

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